[J3] Niklaus Wirth

Van Snyder van.snyder at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jan 6 20:58:52 UTC 2024


On Sat, 2024-01-06 at 14:44 +0000, ian.chivers--- via J3 wrote:
> Hi David
> I'm surprised given the dates you mention of the late 90'sof the
> sarcastic comments.
> The 90 and 95 standards had madesignificant improvements to Fortran.
> I have quite a lot of respect for Wirthfor the Pascal, Modula 2 and
> Oberon languages.

When I discussed submodules with him, he didn't make any disparaging
remarks. After at first expressing preference for the Oberon model,
when the discussion turned to large projects and reusable software, he
agreed that the Modula-2 approach was more useful.
> I also thought that the work they (ETH)did with the Lilith was pretty
> good.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith_%28computer%29
> 
> Sadly when teaching Fortran there isquite a lot of ignorance of
> modern Fortran.
> On some of the recent courses I've givenpeople with a Python
> background tend to bequite critical, especially when this is the only
> language they know.
> Ian Chivers
> -----Original Message-----From: David Muxworthy <
> d.t.muxworthy at btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2024 11:39
> AMTo: Ian Chivers <ian.chivers at chiversandbryan.co.uk>Cc: General J3
> interest list <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org>Subject: Re: [J3] Niklaus
> Wirth
> > The first question is for David what was the date Of the talk?
> 
> 1998 or 1999 so far as I remember.
> 
> 
> 
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