[J3] [SC22WG5.6629] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] [ukfortran] 2025 WG5/J3 meetingin Berkeley

[Bill Long]

I generally agree with those who find fault with a meting that overlaps with July 4.  If the meeting ends up in Berkeley. since July 4 is a major holiday in the US. , i assume there would be issues with the Lab being potentially closed. 

If we have the meeting in the UK, Manchester (ARM hosting) would be more convenient as several of us already “know’ that city from a past meeting there, 

I would note that we had a meeting once at a University campus (TU-Dresden in Germany) and it seemed to go OK. 

During this year’s Supercomputing Conference (held in Atlanta) a group of us over lunch discussed possible alternatives for locations. Based on three criterion (a large enough convention center, lots of hotel rooms, and warm weather in November - at least predictable) we narrowed the list of two candidates;  Las Vegas and Honolulu.  Both are easy for travel,  though Honolulu can tend to be a bit expensive. 

I’m still not clear on why our June meeting needs to have a J3/INCITS component as opposed to being fully a WG5 meeting. 

Cheers,
BIll

(Writing from Honolulu where the daytime highs are still in the low 80’s (F), even in December.)


> On Dec 6, 2024, at 9:10 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
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> Subject:	Re: [EXTERNAL] [J3] [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley
> Date:	Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 -0500
> From:	Reuben D. Budiardja <reubendb at ornl.gov>
> To:	General J3 interest list <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org>
> CC:	Steve Lionel <steve at stevelionel.com>
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> Thanks to UK for offering to host us; I'm supportive of preserving US - non-US pattern as it would help strengthening engagements from all NBs.
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> I'd note that the first week in the list would overlap with a US holiday (Independence day).
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> I have potential conflicts with the late July and early August dates; Also early August is back to school for us and I'd very much like to avoid traveling.
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> Is the earlier week in June that Steve originally proposed for Berkeley (week of June 23) simply not available?
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> Best,
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> On 12/5/24 20:44, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote:
>> Malcolm alerted me to the fact that this message from Chris Brady didn't make it to the J3 list. Normally, if a non-member submits to that list, it is held for moderation, but that did not happen here, so I don't quite know what happened. I don't have Chris Brady's email address, either, so he can't see this reply! (Nathan, please forward!)
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>> Unfortunately, the list of weeks available that Chris offers don't contain any I think are workable (at least I can't make any of them). Does anyone disagree?
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>> From: owner-sc22wg5 at open-std.org <owner-sc22wg5 at open-std.org> On Behalf Of Brady, Christopher
>> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 10:19 PM
>> To: Nathan Sircombe <Nathan.Sircombe at arm.com>; General J3 interest list <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org>
>> Cc: Bill Long <billlong at centurylink.net>; WG5 List <sc22wg5 at open-std.org>
>> Subject: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] [J3] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley
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>> Hello. As Nathan mentioned on Tuesday, I have been looking at getting things sorted so that we can offer to host it at Warwick University. I've managed to get approval for us to host it with a few (I hope minor) caveats if people are interested. Basically the restrictions are
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>>     Warwick does have some lovely conference facilities, but on this notice, I can't put enough money on the budget for booking them. We'd have to use rooms in one of the academic departments. I've managed to get "in principle" reservation for up to 4 suitably sized rooms in the brand new, award winning Faculty of Arts building. All of the rooms have projectors, good network facilities and built in presenter computers. We can get USB connected video conferencing gear, so there shouldn't be any problems with video links, but there isn't a dedicated video conferencing suite. We do have public wireless internet available to anyone on site.
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>> 2.                  Because of having to use teaching rooms it would have to be one of the following weeks
>> 30th June to 4th July
>> 7th July to 11th July
>> 28th July to 1st August
>> 4th August to 8th August
>> 11th August to 15th August
>> 18th August to 22nd August
>> 25th August to 29th August
>> 1st September to 5th September
>> 8th September to 12th September
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>> The two missing weeks in July are graduation, so if they are the only possible dates for people then they are available, but they would need people to book hotel rooms etc. early because of how busy the campus gets. Given how things work at Warwick, the week of the 7th July would be simplest, but if people are interested in this suggestion in general then I could put out a poll for people to select when would be best. It would be best if I booked rooms etc. by early-ish in January, but this isn't a terribly fast timescale.
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>>     We can provide all of the usual features like coffees, lunches etc. and we will able to offer a conference dinner included as well. I know that some people have rules that they have to work within on accepting hospitality etc. and we can         take payment for the conference dinners separately in these cases.
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>>     We can provide rooms in the on campus conference accommodation blocks where we should be able to offer an "internal" discount code that will give you B&B prices of £55 for single rooms and £70 for double/twin rooms. These are our conference centre rooms, not the student halls and I believe that it includes parking costs. We can help people with booking into other hotels if they want and there are several within easy travelling distance of the university, but we can't block book any of them because our policy is to only offer off campus accommodation if we can't offer on campus. If people do want to stay off campus then there are good transport links to campus by bus, taxi and car. There is a charge for parking on campus, but it can be booked in advance online, or paid on the day by phone or parking app.
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>> 5.                  While Warwick is a campus university and offers all of the usual facilities like restaurants, a sports centre and a small supermarket, it is also a ten minute bus ride from either Coventry or Kenilworth, so you are not dependent on the facilities on campus.
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>> If this is of interest to people, please let me know and I can sort out about dates and then finalise arrangements. Similarly, if there is anything that I have missed, please let me know.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Chris Brady
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>> Senior Research Software Engineer
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>> Scientific Computing Research Technology Platform
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>> University of Warwick
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>> CV4 7AL
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>> United Kingdom
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Bill Long
billlong at centurylink.net