[J3] [SC22WG5.6428] F2023 DIS ballot results and comments

[Nathan Sircombe]

Hi,

>> Unlike line numbers paragraph numbers remain invariant with different font sizes (mentioned by ITTF in the DIS comments), page sizes and page margins as well as in any translation.  I vote to keep paragraph numbers and not to have line numbers in the versions going outside the Fortran committees.
> I agree with David.

Me also. Paragraph numbering is sufficient granularity I think and doesn’t bring complications with translations and re-numbering between relatively minor revisions.

> Cambria is a Microsoft product, one would think that ISO would use a more independent font
Yes, it’s rather Microsoft-centric. But the real problem is the different font systems. Even if ISO dictated an opensource font, that would likely be OpenType (or TrueType like Cambria et al.) and (as far as I know) LaTeX doesn’t support these, and there’s no easy way to build a LaTeX font from a TrueType. Other flavours of TeX do support Open/TrueType though I think.
I don’t see it’s possible to _actually_ set the whole thing in Cambria. Can we just say ‘no’ on the grounds of ‘cost’.
…has this ever come up before? Does it impact other standards, like C++ (I can’t imagine they’re using Word…)?

Talking of Microsoft – what are all the retro Windows 3 style OLE icons peppered through the document with .txt filename underneath.

Cheers,
Nathan.

From: J3 <j3-bounces at mailman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Gary Klimowicz via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org>
Date: Wednesday, 1 February 2023 at 9:15 pm
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Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6428] F2023 DIS ballot results and comments

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 09:37, d.muxworthy--- via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>
>> The argument against line numbers is that, especially when the document is translated, they can change. Does anyone have strong opinions about whether we should put line numbers back in the official standard? I'd like to keep the paragraph numbers and don't care about line numbers.
>
> Unlike line numbers paragraph numbers remain invariant with different font sizes (mentioned by ITTF in the DIS comments), page sizes and page margins as well as in any translation.  I vote to keep paragraph numbers and not to have line numbers in the versions going outside the Fortran committees.
> David

I agree with David.
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