[J3] (SC22WG5.6221) 2020 WG5 meeting canceled

Steve Lionel steve at stevelionel.com
Fri May 22 11:33:28 EDT 2020


After considering the discussion in this mail list, and also comments 
received privately, I have decided to cancel completely the 2020 WG5 
meeting. Our next meeting is scheduled for June 22-26, 2021, in 
Manchester, UK. My reasoning is as follows:

 * INCITS has banned in-person meetings through the end of 2020, which
   means that we cannot meet in Vegas
 * WG5 has no critical work at this time - the work list for Fortran
   202X is closed and we are not yet discussing the work list for 202Y
 * A virtual meeting is possible, but difficult with members across
   many time zones
 * Most of what we would be doing in October is J3 work on the
   technical content. That can continue, and WG5 members can contribute
   as they often do during joint meetings

I don't yet know what Dan's plans are for the J3 meeting, but it is 
clear that we need to move a lot more of the J3 subgroup work online, 
allowing broader participation across WG5. To that end I will be adding 
a message board/forum to the J3 site that is focused on developing and 
discussing papers to complete the 202X work list. In order to satisfy 
INCITS/ISO rules, access to this will be limited to WG5 (includes J3) 
members.

The Generics subgroup will also be able to use this forum to form a 
direction for that topic, previously assigned by WG5.

The initial implementation may be a bit rough, but please bear with me 
on this. I do think that using a forum rather than email for these 
discussions will be beneficial, as they will be better organized and 
interested members can follow the topics they want. I have decades of 
experience running this sort of forum, back to 1980 at DEC where we used 
"NOTES files" for similar purposes, and they worked well. Stay tuned for 
announcements regarding this.

I recognize that this is not the way we are used to working, but it's 
what we will have to do to adapt to the current and future world. I 
believe that if we make the effort, we can improve the standard 
development process and make faster progress with better results.

Steve



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