[J3] Clarification on F18/017

Ondřej Čertík ondrej at certik.us
Mon Jun 8 18:40:14 EDT 2020



On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote:
> On 6/8/2020 5:04 PM, Ondřej Čertík via J3 wrote:
> > And Zach and Peter B. and several others have expressed that to me privately, but I will not name them unless they want to publicly mention it. I haven't publicized this, but if you have doubts about what the community wants, I am happy to ask more publicly to generate a more representative feedback.
> 
> Really what I want is a technical discussion, and, ideally, an alternate 
> proposal. Neither are evident to date. Making vague statements about 
> what "the community" wants is not constructive and suggests that the 
> technical argument is lacking. I certainly don't see it in the github 
> thread.

Let's have a technical discussion.

> 
> To wit: what is wrong with the way F18/017 allows for different ordering 
> of finalization and why is it wrong? 

Neil just answered it here:

https://mailman.j3-fortran.org/pipermail/j3/2020-June/012131.html

> Provide an example program that 
> breaks if the ordering CBPA is used so that we can better understand 
> your arguments.

That has been provided here:

https://github.com/j3-fortran/fortran_proposals/issues/146#issuecomment-589857885

That particular program I think is not open source, so we cannot share it. Let me know if that description of the problem is not clear, and we can provide a minimal example.

Ondrej


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