[J3] (SC22WG5.6223) J3 Fortran interp letter ballot #36

[Ondřej Čertík]

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote:
> On 6/3/2020 12:00 PM, Ondřej Čertík via J3 wrote:
> > I want to point attention to F18/017, of which there was a heated debate at the last meeting and I believe people didn't know what they are voting upon. Technically it passed at the last meeting, but many people regretted their vote afterwards.
> 
> The protocol here is that if you object to the interp, passed by UC at 
> m221 (there is no "technically"), your organization should respond to 
> the ballot with a -N- for this interp, and add comments explaining what 
> you think is wrong with it. It would be additionally helpful if you 
> would identify changes which would change your vote to approval. Anyone 
> else who has changed their mind is free to do the same (one per 
> organization.)
> 
> If it passes J3, it then the corrigendum goes for a WG5 letter ballot.
> 
> To say that "people didn't know what they are voting upon" is insulting, 
> don't you think? I believe that the following bullets from the ISO Code 
> of Conduct, of which I know you are familiar, are relevant:
> 
> ▸ Respecting others and the diversity of professional opinions – 
> scientific, technical, or otherwise
> ▸ Embracing the concepts of compromise and consensus-building in the 
> development of ISO standards
> ▸ Accepting and respecting consensus decisions of the committee or 
> working group and of the ISO/TMB

I apologize for my wording, I was trying to write it quickly before people vote on this, and indeed, it didn't come out right. I am sorry. I didn't mean to insult anyone.

What I meant to write is that there was a heated discussion right after the vote, and that I believe we should have a
period of time to discuss the interp, and only then vote. I can see already you and Van voted on this.

I need time to full understand the interp, to consult it with others in my organization (that reported the issue) and see if it fixes it. 

In the mean time, I ask that we please have a discussion before forcing a vote.

Ondrej