[J3] [EXTERNAL] (SC22WG5.6222) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey

[Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash]

> As far as I know, no member candidate was ever turned away on the basis of gender (or any other category other than running afoul of the company limits).

The fact that no one has been explicitly turned away on the basis of
their gender does not mean that they were not driven away because of
their gender.

>  That the number of women on the committee has fallen is an observable fact. I have no information as to what factors have driven it.

That is one of the reasons that the ISO Council has created a Gender
Action Plan and launched this survey; the first step in solving a
problem is identifying it and understanding the scope of it.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:12 PM Keith Bierman via J3
<j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>
> I did not mean to imply it was sufficient. However, "back in the day" there was more gender diversity on the committee ... with a single exception (which I am loathe to discuss online) I don't know of any adverse pressure applied to those members and the outreach for new members was largely driven by Leadership (Chair and IR were female when I started). That the number of women on the committee has fallen is an observable fact. I have no information as to what factors have driven it.
> Keith Bierman
> khbkhb at gmail.com
> 303 997 2749
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:03 PM Damian Rouson <damian at sourceryinstitute.org> wrote:
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>> “Not turning away” is not sufficient.  If it were, then any number of deeply troubling imbalances that exist today would have been resolved by now.  They haven’t been and any attempt to even get the smallest amount of data relevant to the problem gets publicly ridiculed as “absurdly irrelevant.”  Again... stunning.
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>> Damian
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>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 13:53 Keith Bierman via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
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>>> FWIW, the committee used to have several women, including the leadership (J. Adams, J. Martin) and various vendor reps (IBM and Cray come to mind with just a few seconds of walking down memory lane).  While 4 may not seem like a lot, we were often only a dozen or members so it wasn't trivial (although not parity). As far as I know, no member candidate was ever turned away on the basis of gender (or any other category other than running afoul of the company limits).
>>> Keith Bierman
>>> khbkhb at gmail.com
>>> 303 997 2749



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Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash
US Programming Language Standards (PL22) Chair
ISO C++ Library Evolution Chair
CppCon and C++Now Program Chair
CUDA Core C++ Libraries (Thrust, CUB, libcu++) Lead @ NVIDIA
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