[J3] [EXTERNAL] (SC22WG5.6222) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey

[Damian Rouson]

As Exhibit A in the argument that discrimination doesn’t have to be direct,
explicit, or even intentional to nonetheless have disturbing effects, let’s
note that it creates a hostile environment for anyone interested in
addressing such imbalances when someone who is in the demographic group
that occupies the overwhelming proportion of the group’s membership
publicly labels even the smallest of efforts to address the issue “absurdly
irrelevant.”

Damian

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 14:11 Keith Bierman <khbkhb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did not mean to imply it was sufficient. However, "back in the day"
> there was more gender diversity on the committee ... with a single
> exception (which I am loathe to discuss online) I don't know of any adverse
> pressure applied to those members and the outreach for new members was
> largely driven by Leadership (Chair and IR were female when I started).
> That the number of women on the committee has fallen is an observable fact.
> I have no information as to what factors have driven it.
> Keith Bierman
> khbkhb at gmail.com
> 303 997 2749
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:03 PM Damian Rouson <damian at sourceryinstitute.org>
> wrote:
>
>> “Not turning away” is not sufficient.  If it were, then any number of
>> deeply troubling imbalances that exist today would have been resolved by
>> now.  They haven’t been and any attempt to even get the smallest amount of
>> data relevant to the problem gets publicly ridiculed as “absurdly
>> irrelevant.”  Again... stunning.
>>
>> Damian
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 13:53 Keith Bierman via J3 <
>> j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, the committee used to have several women, including the leadership
>>> (J. Adams, J. Martin) and various vendor reps (IBM and Cray come to mind
>>> with just a few seconds of walking down memory lane).  While 4 may not seem
>>> like a lot, we were often only a dozen or members so it wasn't trivial
>>> (although not parity). As far as I know, no member candidate was ever
>>> turned away on the basis of gender (or any other category other than
>>> running afoul of the company limits).
>>> Keith Bierman
>>> khbkhb at gmail.com
>>> 303 997 2749
>>>
>>
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