[J3] [EXTERNAL] Re: (SC22WG5.6176) [ukfortran] October meeting visa invitation letter

Reuben D. Budiardja reubendb at ornl.gov
Wed Apr 29 08:29:32 EDT 2020

On 04/28/2020 06:46 PM, Bill Long via J3 wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Ondřej Čertík via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:

> Anton’s point about time zones is well taken.  We had a lot of discussion about that when we were having similar planning sessions for the now-cancelled June meeting.  The time zone issue is even more dramatic for someone in Japan, which is effectively 12-hours, day / night reversed from the US.  I doubt if any of those of us in the US would have been happy about the idea of making the meeting in Tokyo on-line (during daytime hours there).

A possibility is to split subgroup papers to people with closer timezone 
overlap. Then it can be discussed using teleconference software or 
something like Slack in near-real time for that particular paper. But I 
honestly am not sure how feasible that is.

> Another topic that is quite relevant, that came up before, is that it is very hard for people to get away from their “day jobs” if they are at their home location.   This is an important reason the Las Vegas meetings are do effective.

I would be one of these people. As much as I'd like to work more on 
Fortran-related stuff, there is simply not enough hours in the day to do 
so. Going to Vegas gives me the excuse to (mostly) ignore what's going 
on "at home". There is always something with higher immediacy "at home 
location" to take care of ...

There is also a lot to be said for in-person interactions for working 
out details. It doesn't mean that some work cannot be done remotely with 
tools like Github / Slack. Neither one is a complete replacement of the 


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