[J3] (SC22WG5.6180) [EXTERNAL] Re: [ukfortran] October meeting visa invitation letter

Van Snyder Van.Snyder at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Apr 28 18:57:56 EDT 2020

On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 22:46 +0000, Bill Long via J3 wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Ondřej Čertík via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> I'm very much against drastic changes.
> >> 
> >> Assuming we are talking about
> >> an evolution, not revolution,
> > 
> > Yes, evolution, not revolution.
> Taking the paper discussion out of J3 and moving it to your githib
> site seems a lot like revolution. 
> Anton’s point about time zones is well taken.  We had a lot of
> discussion about that when we were having similar planning sessions
> for the now-cancelled June meeting.  The time zone issue is even more
> dramatic for someone in Japan, which is effectively 12-hours, day /
> night reversed from the US.  I doubt if any of those of us in the US
> would have been happy about the idea of making the meeting in Tokyo
> on-line (during daytime hours there). 
> Another topic that is quite relevant, that came up before, is that it
> is very hard for people to get away from their “day jobs” if they are
> at their home location.   This is an important reason the Las Vegas
> meetings are do effective. 

I agree with Bill, but, that said, there's no excuse not to do more work
by e-mail between meetings. The deal I made with my boss when I started
Fortran work in 1997 was about 10% of my yearly hours.  That's what
INCITS asked for.  That would be 220 hours.  Three meetings amounts to
120 hours.  I spend some work hours on Fortran e-mail, such as this one,
but typically not 100 hours per year. But I do spend a lot of time at
home, much more than 100 hours per year, instead of watching television
or going to movies.

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