[J3] work on F202X at #217?

Van Snyder Van.Snyder at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Jul 24 13:54:56 EDT 2018


On Tue, 2018-07-24 at 13:47 -0400, Steve Lionel wrote:
> I’d say it was subsumed by generics/templates. 

That would be my guess too.  So we should say so.

But there's more to containers than what "generics/templates" would
support.

As Tom pointed out, containers needs iterators.  It is unhelpful to
abstraction if the client of a container is required to understand and
have access to the implementation and representation of the container in
order to enumerate its contents.

> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:46 PM Van Snyder via J3
> <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
> 
>         On Tue, 2018-07-24 at 13:00 -0400, Steve Lionel wrote:
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:46 PM Van Snyder via J3
>         > <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 22:46 +0000, Bill Long via J3
>         wrote:
>         >         
>         >         > 2) The parts of 18-156 that were NOT discussed at
>         Berkeley:
>         >         > 
>         >         >       A fairly long list that all got positive
>         votes from
>         >         J3.  These
>         >         > are basically the “US proposal”. 
>         >         
>         >         A topic at 215 that is not listed in 18-156 was
>         "support for
>         >         containers."
>         >         
>         >         Was this overlooked at 216, voted down while I
>         wasn't looking,
>         >         quietly pushed off the table by somebody's cat, or
>         folded into
>         >         something else, say "generics?"
>         >         
>         >         
>         > My notes from 215 say that we considered containers in paper
>         142 and
>         > the SV to NOT do containers but instead “add more general
>         capabilities
>         > that allow implementation of containers by users” was
>         10/0/0. My cat
>         > was out of the room at the time.
>         
>         That was my recollection too.  I carefully wrote "support for
>         containers" not "do containers."  The "support for containers"
>         topic was
>         not in 18-156.  So where is this 10/0/0 topic now?
>         
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Steve
>         
>         




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