[J3] 18-156

[Clune, Thomas L. GSFC-6101]

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
> 
> Van,
> 
> How many vendors do you expect to implement this feature without any promise that it will be integrated into a specific future version of the standard?      My estimate is the same number that would implement it without the TS.    This would seem to be a pyrrhic victory at best if you got your way.
> 
> But aside from that point, I would be curious what other reasons the committee had for tossing it into that ?approved-but-irrelevant? category?  

Meant for their to be a ?not? in that last phrase:    ?? not tossing it into ?"


> 
> - Tom
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> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Van Snyder via J3 <j3 at mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 2018-02-27 at 15:12 +0000, Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) wrote:
>>> I too am not opposed to units per se, but it?s not so high on my list
>>> of priorities. 
>> 
>> The current draft of the units proposal, indeed every draft, was a TS,
>> not a work item proposal.  Unlike every previous TS, for several drafts,
>> a promise that it will be integrated into the next standard is not
>> included.  Instead it includes words copied from a C TS that explicitly
>> say it might never be incorporated into any standard.
>> 
>> It has no bearing whatsoever on the schedule or work load for the next
>> standard.  That's what's baffling about the resistance to letting ISO
>> publish it.
>> 
>> A TS is supposed to have a separate schedule that does not impact the
>> primary development schedule.
>> 
>> Yeah, we spent a lot of time in plenary and subgroup on the last two
>> TS's because they weren't ready to go when they were "ready to go."  The
>> first three were produced offline, and then incorporated into the
>> standard when they were actually ready.
>> 
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