(j3.2006) (SC22WG5.5914) Preview of possible feature survey

Steve Lionel steve
Wed Jul 12 11:21:06 EDT 2017


For the items on the list, we would already have use cases known, but how
about I add a request for use cases for their #1 choice, whatever it may be?

Steve

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM, John Reid <John.Reid at stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> Steve Lionel wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > Simply asking for suggestions doesn't provide us with information on
> > what users think is important. We ARE considering (or have considered in
> > the past) many of these items, and my intent is to populate the list
> > with new suggestions as they come in. The survey allows people to
> > suggest additional items.
> >
> > We are not at all bound by this, but having ranked-choice voting
> > encourages users to recognize that there are tradeoffs and that we can't
> > do everything.
>
> How about requiring that giving a rank to a feature be accompanied by an
> explanation of how they would use it and why it would make a big
> difference in their application?
>
> John.
>
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:19 AM, John Reid <John.Reid at stfc.ac.uk
> > <mailto:John.Reid at stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >
> >     Steve,
> >
> >     Sorry to be slow in commenting on this. I am not happy about have a
> list
> >     like this. It suggests that the committee is seriously considering
> all
> >     these and that some sort of vote will determine which are chosen. I
> >     think it would be better just to have the open invitation to make a
> >     suggestion, with a full explanation of how they would use it and why
> it
> >     would make a big difference in their application.
> >
> >     Cheers,
> >
> >     John.
> >
> >     Steve Lionel wrote:
> >     > At Garching we agreed to survey the user community to see what
> >     features
> >     > they wanted added to Fortran. I volunteered to create such a
> survey.
> >     >
> >     > I have put together a sample survey which you can preview at
> >     >
> >     https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=
> mQpu1omN0yqfQzTHlOh1EINqgBiSYtQgDwCuXU3_2BipuWire738v3KF9WXKQ5T0Q2
> >     <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=
> mQpu1omN0yqfQzTHlOh1EINqgBiSYtQgDwCuXU3_2BipuWire738v3KF9WXKQ5T0Q2>
> >     > You can comment in the preview (at least I think you can) by
> >     clicking on
> >     > the little speech box icons, or you can send me your comments.
> >     >
> >     > In this iteration I have asked the user to rank the features,
> which is
> >     > helpful in establishing priorities, but an alternative is star
> ratings
> >     > or asking to rank each option on a 0-5 scale. These would get a
> >     > different perspective, but I am uncertain which is more useful to
> us.
> >     >
> >     > I look forward to your comments. Also if you have suggestions to
> >     add to
> >     > the list of features, let me know. Everything about this is up in
> >     the air.
> >     >
> >     > On a semi-unrelated note, on a suggestion from John and after
> >     > consultation with Malcolm, I have registered the domain
> >     wg5-fortran.org <http://wg5-fortran.org>
> >     > and am setting up a web site under that domain. This would have
> >     the WG5
> >     > content currently hosted by NAG. When that is done, we can have
> >     the NAG
> >     > URL redirect to the new one for a while.
> >     >
> >     > Steve
> >     >
> >     >
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