(j3.2006) courtyard costs

Bill Long longb
Tue Oct 21 09:15:16 EDT 2014

On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Van Snyder <van.snyder at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 20:23 +0100, John Reid wrote:
>> It might be worth considering the Millennium Harvest House. IFIP WG
>> 2.5 met there in July 2011 for $104 + 12.25% tax, including breakfast.
> Millennium Harvest might be too far from the meeting venue that Dan can
> arrange via NCAR.  If so, it's only a good deal if they'll give us a
> free meeting room....  It wouldn't help to get a sleeping room for $104
> if the meeting room costs $1500/day (as it would at Bellagio).  If they
> can't give us a free meeting room, can we get a free shuttle to NCAR, or
> would several of us need to rent cars?  Weekly car rentals at DIA seem
> to be around $260, at least for June 2015 (sites I tried wouldn't quote
> for 2016).

We tried the shuttle mode in Fairfax.  I really don?t want to deal with that again.  Requiring a shuttle between the meeting location and hotel should  be a disqualifying condition.

Ideally we would have the meetings in the same building (or connected building) as the hotel. As in Las Vegas, for example.   If not, then a pleasant walk, such as the past experience in London, Garching, Delft, Tokyo, Desden, and  Markham.   Or, if we ever schedule a meeting in St. Paul (a good candidate for a ?reunion? meeting), there are multiple hotels within a few blocks of the Cray office. (The office is in a building connected to the skyway system in the downtown business district.)

> If the costs at/near Boulder are prohibitive, I can probably make
> arrangements at the Pasadena Hilton for around $110/night, plus a free
> meeting room at Caltech (about a mile away -- much closer than the

I?m not sure I?d count a mile in LA  in the middle of the summer as a ?pleasant walk?. 

But, getting from LAX to Caltech basically involves renting a car anyway.  That would open up Keith?s lower priced option in Boulder, so I?m not seeing an advantage over Boulder that would justify a move. 

> distance from the hotel to the meeting in Fairfax, and about half the
> distance from the hotel to the meeting in Delft), probably plus a free
> shuttle.  There's a bus that goes past the Hotel and Caltech, for which
> the fare (this year) is $0.50.
> I could arrange a social event consisting of a tour of JPL.
> Or... we could stay in Lost Wages.

Las Vegas is always a reliable choice.  But I would be prefer, for 2016,  to see it we can make Boulder work if possible, 


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