(j3.2006) defining a type with no components

[Dan Nagle]

Hi,

See 14-144

On Apr 17, 2014, at 09:39 , Bill Long <longb at cray.com> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Dan Nagle <danlnagle at ME.COM> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 08:27 , Kurt W Hirchert <hirchert at UIUC.EDU> wrote:
>> 
>>> [452:34] is clear!
>> 
>> If [452:34] is clear by itself, then so are [452:33] and [452:35].
> 
> 
> For me, the confusion is that we have a specific subclause, 16.6.2 ?Variables that are always defined? which lists zero-size arrays and strings, but NOT variables of an empty type.  I thought this omission was intentional, but it appears otherwise. If variables of an empty type are, in fact, always defined, it would be a helpful clarification to actually say so in 16.6.2.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> At best, the argument is that [452:33-35] cannot be understood without [452:36],
>> and the absence of statements similar to [452:36] concerning any other status.
>> 
>> If this were merely a case of ?one must read the whole section to understand?
>> that would be one situation.  It is quite another situation to require seeing
>> that nowhere in the standard is there a similar statement about any other status;
>> that is a bit much to expect of readers (not all of whom are members).
>> 
>> I?ll post a paper adding ?A derived-type scalar object
>> with no nonpointer components? to [452:38] (or its homolog in 14-007).
>> 
>> Thanks, everyone, for the discussion!
>> 
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>> Cheers!
>> Dan Nagle
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Dan Nagle