(j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4192) WG5 Las Vegas Feb-2010/J3 m191 minutes 10-144

Van Snyder Van.Snyder
Tue Feb 23 15:18:18 EST 2010


In item 10.1 you have "It was possible that JPL would not support
further Fortran development unless these were addressed."

Actually, I said that it is possible that JPL would not further support
my membership in PL22.3 if PL22.3 and WG5 were to adopt a no-development
agenda.  The four proposals that I cast in the form of TR's are the four
biggest proposals on the JPL agenda.  One of them, physical units, is
the most important one.  I cast them as TR's to try to get every detail
other than edits written down, so PL22.3 and WG5 would have a
comprehensive view of what the proposals are.

I'm pretty sure that JPL would support my membership even if none of
those major proposals were to become part of the work plan, so long as
there is further development of Fortran.  The fifth paper I put in the
Tutorials directory, wishlist-2013.pdf, has outlines of 84 projects
altogether, several of which are subsumed by the TR-like documents.
None of them are as trivial as "empty contains part," but some are quite

My colleagues view the failure to undertake any substantive development
of Fortran until 1990 as the major reason for the bad odor Fortran has
in computer science departments.  Now that Fortran is starting to be
taught in engineering departments again, it is exactly the wrong time to
take another 40-year development hiatus.

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:29 -0800, Whitlock, Stan wrote:
> Here are the minutes of the J3 m191 meeting 15-19-Feb-2010 that
> include descriptions of the WG5 portions of the meeting
> intermixed.                                                                                                                                                                           
> The J3 paper is in the m191 folder on the web as 10-144.
> Please let me know if you find any problems in this document.
> Thanks                                      /Stan

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