(j3.2006) (SC22WG5.3611) Preparing for the Tokyo meeting

Keith Bierman khbkhb
Mon Nov 3 14:48:53 EST 2008


On Nov 3, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Lawrie Schonfelder wrote:

> I ... particular multiprocessor architectures...

Given the ever growing pool of multi-core (and/or multithreaded)  
processors ... and the sheer physical difficultly of arbitrarily  
increasing clock speeds, I think the particular multiprocessor  
architectures to which this facility applies is virtually all  
interesting ones going forward (OK, PDA/handheld phones may well NOT  
go multi-core in a big way, as power is their biggest driver ... but  
is Fortran really focused on that sort of thing? Should it??).
..
> I will accept a lack of detailed direct experience but I would be  
> very surprised if co-arrays were anything but useless on an  
> architecture that was a tree-structure of multi-level separate  
> memory processors, such as I recall being constructed using  
> transputer chips in the 1990s; useless as general purpose machines  
> but for specific problems where the problem and the interconnection  
> matched, the solution performance improvement was considerable

As distasteful as the thought is, I suspect that such ensembles will  
be constructed of multi-core/multi-threaded elements, so one will  
eventually have to figure out how to program using both paradigms.

Fortran is primarily used for numerical computing where speed counts;  
so features necessary for performance should remain on the  
committee's radar...at least IMNSHO.


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